User talk:Timeshifter/Archive 1

Global Marijuana March wiki
{I copied the first part of this message thread from
 * http://campaigns.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales
 * A page has been started here: Global Marijuana March} --Timeshifter 11:33, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

http://www.globalmarijuanamarch.org (GMM)

I would like to create a wiki-type page that would allow selected people only to edit on it. It would not be an NPOV page. It would be an organizing page for the pro-cannabis side only. Ads are fine since I want the page to last forever.

I don't know if Wikia is the place for this, because I am new to Wikia. I have many edits at wikipedia, though.

It takes a lot of time for organizers to put together city-list pages like these:
 * http://www.globalmarijuanamarch.org
 * http://www.globalmarijuanamarch.org/2006.php
 * http://www.geocities.com/tents444/mmm2005map.htm
 * http://corporatism.tripod.com/mmm2007map.htm

A wiki format would allow many selected people worldwide to work on it, and people could fill in the URLs for the cities, photo pages, etc..

By the way, I would like to see some optional advertising at wikipedia. See this page please:
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_for_optional_advertisements --Timeshifter 22:15, 2 February 2007 (UTC)


 * [Later note: Please see wikipedia:Wikipedia:Advertisements and the following sections on income from search engine placement, etc.. --Timeshifter 18:43, 16 December 2008 (UTC)]

More info:

I am new to Wikia. Is it possible to set up a wiki page or project where I control who has the right to edit the project, and where I have the last word? And am I allowed to create a project with a POV?

I guess I am looking for a free hosted wiki using MediaWiki software that operates like Tripod, Angelfire, Geocities, and other free web hosting sites.

Those ad-supported sites put total control of each subdomain or subdirectory in the hands of the person who signed up the subdomain or subdirectory. I control these subdomains and subdirectories:
 * http://corporatism.tripod.com
 * http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/y
 * http://www.geocities.com/tents444/

An example of a page on the last site listed is:
 * http://www.geocities.com/tents444/mmm2007map.htm

I wrote up a how-to page on creating free websites at those type of ad-supported web hosts: http://www.geocities.com/tents444/webpages.htm

But those sites have serious limitations. Such as limited free monthly bandwidth, and lack of wikis.

I would like to put up a GMM 2007 wiki under the total control of the people running GlobalMarijuanaMarch.org so that a group of people can do all the city list work at the wiki page.

Then anybody worldwide can copy the 2007 city list to mirror sites on a regular basis as the city list is updated with links. Especially after the event in May 2007 when hundreds of links will need to be added for media coverage, photo galleries, YouTube video links, etc.. For over 200 cities worldwide. People worldwide know how to use wikipedia software. So it will be easier to get collaboration due to the MediaWiki experience many people have.

The best GMM city list was the one done for 2005 GMM/MMM:
 * http://www.geocities.com/tents444/mmm2005map.htm

It had many, many links added. But it took an incredible amount of work. And there were many more links that could have been added if there had been a way to easily collaborate. --Timeshifter 15:40, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The people putting together the GMM event would have control over the pages, but it's discouraged by Wikia to have it set as exclusive control unless pages have a history of being vandalized. If you have people keeping an eye on the content changes, it's pretty easy to catch things and block the users and/or IP addresses that are doing the damage.


 * I think you can do what you need on the Cannabis Wikia. If nothing else, it would be a place to collaborate on building the list of links that could then be copied over to another page on a periodic basis.  I do this for some of my own projects using lesser known wikia sites, and it works pretty well.


 * You haven't verified your email address yet, so we can only use Talk pages. If you need to contact me directly, feel free.  Chadlupkes 16:10, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Can you give me some links to those projects of yours you mentioned? Maybe we can continue discussion over at my talk page. I will copy this thread over to it. I want to be able to point other GMM people to the message thread there so they can get up to speed fast. I couldn't tell from my wikia preferences if email could be set to private. I think that is how it works at wikipedia. I have my email there set to private, I believe, and the main reason it is there is in case I forget my password. I may contact you by email also. --Timeshifter 18:55, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
 * Chadlupkes 19:37, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for starting the page. I may have never got around to it, since I tend sometimes to overthink things. I set up the page with just the city list. Thanks for putting the region titles in index form.


 * I am thinking I can get people to add links. I don't know though if this is OK with Wikia. Is this something that will fly with Wikia? I haven't looked at enough other Wikia pages to see if this is acceptable. I don't want to leave links because then it is too confusing to see the new links added. Especially if there are various types of edits. Not just edits adding links. So I hope to remove links after they are copied to the main page at:
 * http://www.globalmarijuanamarch.org


 * Open to ideas. Feedback welcome. --Timeshifter 01:28, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. I had to get over overthinking things too.


 * This kind of thing is what Wikia wants to happen, trust me. It has less to do with the subject matter, and more to do with getting more and more people familiar with the user interface.  Getting the voices of the people who support the responsible use of cannabis out into the public eye does nobody any harm.  And if controversy empowers debate, it's all good.


 * I would suggest that you don't delete the links as they are added to the page and then copied to the main page. You can track history and see what each change is if you need to.  But having the complete list in multiple places is not a bad thing, and if people don't understand what you are doing, they may continue to restore whatever links that you delete.  It's better just to let the community build the page, and copy it enmass once a week or so.  Chadlupkes 01:49, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I thought of a way to leave the links. I will bold the links that are copied over to
 * http://www.globalmarijuanamarch.org


 * This way the page will evolve organically, and there is much less need for organizer supervision of the page. It may end up far different than what any particular group of editors envision it at any particular time. Interesting. --Timeshifter 11:16, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

POV is definitely fine. This site is not-NPOV... we just need to make sure to keep the content up-to-date.JPatrickBedell 22:02, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

im?
do you use an instant messenger? [- Tribble]


 * I am testing the one you recommended on the GMM article page. I sent you a message.


 * By the way, you can sign your messages with the button that is second from the end of the right side of the line of button icons in the compose form. The one that looks like script. It is the same as in Wikipedia. I saw some of your edits at Wikipedia. --Timeshifter 19:06, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

planetplanet
hi timeshifter,

do you know the software planetplanet? it can gather the rss feeds from other pages and render it into one. do you have the ressources of time to hold up a current list of rss feeds from the gmm pages? so we could put up a planetplanet together. like on http://planet.hanfplantage.de/. please think about it, but for today i will go more or less offline (had a hard night)

greetings, t. [- Tribble]


 * I have never used RSS feeds. How do they work? I have both MSIE 7 and Firefox 2 browsers installed. I use Firefox browser nearly all the time, because MSIE 7 messed up the use of favorites/bookmarks when many are installed. I read that RSS is easy in Firefox? --Timeshifter 19:10, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Multilingual WeedWiki
Thanks for the heads up. I answered there. Chadlupkes 16:50, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Whitelist
I've added that link here as well. See MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. If you'd like to be an admin here so you can edit this yourself, just let me know. Angela talk 22:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I would recommend Timeshifter for admin here. He's been doing most of the work.  Chadlupkes 03:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

You're now an admin here. Please see the Administrators' how-to guide if you need any help with this. Angela talk 19:45, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi
Hi, you seem to be the only admin here. Are you actively editing? If not, I'd be glad to help. I'm an admin at Wikipedia (understandably, I would rather not reveal my account name, but I will tell you privately). Androsynth 21:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

greetings
hello Timeshifter, i see there is not really much happening here atm. I was thinking on starting an aricle on Dutch legislation, all in laymans terms. Do you have any other articles on legislation? maybe a page with the different countries could be helpful, or a page for each country, with the history of their involvement with cannabis. I know some things about how hashish is fabricated in different countries like morocco and afghanistan. D. G. Neree 12:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I replied on your talk page: User talk:D. G. Neree. --Timeshifter 21:41, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * as english is not my native language, feel free to correct any mistakes in words or phrasing. Sometimes i get tangled up in sentences and i just fill in the gaps as best as i can to keep the sentence going. D. G. Neree 23:08, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You are very dedicated :) I havent had much time te past week, but i'll be back as soon as i can spare some time. D. G. Neree 22:02, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Manticore
Timeshifter, this guy Manticore, who has tried to be a janitor on wikia, but failed and got fired for sysop-abuse, is stalking me wherever he can, out of frustration that i blocked a buddy of his about a year ago on a wiki i founded. (paradoxology). His harrassments led me to abandon all wikia wikis. Now that he was fired, i thought it would be nice to write here, but this guy keeps on venting his incapacity on me. Would you be so kind as to ask him to leave my userpage alone? My only intention here is to write on the subject of Cannabis and I really don't care for being harrassed here. He already ruined my motivation to write for any wikia wiki and if this goes on i don't really feel like writing here either. He's just a frustrated, power hungry adolescent, or at least acts like one. Sorry about this. D. G. Neree 15:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Forum
ehm... I looked at the forum, but it is rather confusing and difficult to create a new topic. I wanted to suggest a forum like here: http://oncyclopedia.net/wiki/Oncyclopedia:Gebruikersportaal (scroll down). it is very user friendly. If you like, i can ask Marco to install it. he is very good with portals and such. also, as i saw that you were requesting help on wikia (on Manticore's talk page). I will read up on this Global March thing, but i believe the next one is next year? I'll have some time to learn more about it, but i wondered if there were any other things you need help with? Is there a maintenance page with a todo list? Meanwhile, i'll try to collect relevant information on everything related to the topic of the wiki an post it. D. G. Neree 17:27, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikia starter pages comment
I moved your comments from w:c:starter:User:Kirkburn to w:User talk:Kirkburn. I hope you don't mind. --Michaeldsuarez 15:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)